The Death Diaries Interview with Gail Rubin

Feb 14, 2020 | 0 comments

The Death Diaries Podcast explores a topic most people avoid discussing. For real people who need real stories about how to cope with death and its many complexities, the Death Diaries is the Podcast that delivers an exploration of life’s inevitable exit strategy, because deeper meaning and coping skills make it a lot less scary.

The latest episode features a 30-minute interview with Gail Rubin, The Doyenne of Death®, a pioneering death educator who was one of the first people to hold a Death Cafe in the United States.

Each person interviewed on The Death Diaries Podcast is asked to write and recite their reflections on some aspect of mortality. This is my entry, written and recorded in September, 2019.

Death Diary 9.16.19

Dear Diary,

I’m the Doyenne of Death. I believe in the power of humor to get people to discuss and plan for our 100% mortality rate. But you can only laugh about death when it seems like a distant possibility. When you have a loved one who is gravely ill, that’s no time to make jokes about funeral planning.

My younger brother Lee just spent his 60th birthday in the hospital. He had quadruple bypass surgery and was assured he’d be out of the hospital to recover at home in six days. It hasn’t worked out that way.

The second night after surgery, he had “an event.” His blood pressure and heart rate dropped dangerously low. He was placed on a ventilator, kept sedated and on pain medications. He developed sepsis, and the doctors put him on antibiotics. As I write this, it has been a full week since the surgery, and he is nowhere near any condition to go home.

The first day after “the event,” I spoke to my niece, his daughter. “You know I’m the Doyenne of Death, so I have to ask you, do you know what his wishes might be if he dies?” No one wants to think about such a dire outcome.

She said he told her a while ago that he’d like to be cremated and have his ashes scattered in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of New Smyrna Beach, Florida. He loved to swim in the ocean there. At least we know that much.

I hope he will get better. He is walking a fine line right now. I just pray when others find themselves in similar circumstances, with family members who could die in the hospital, that they’ve had “The Talk.” Serious conversations about end-of-life issues, conducted BEFORE the trip to the hospital, can provide light in a dark time.

I hope my work gives people permission to laugh, and learn, and be prepared.

Gail Rubin

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